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Dangerously Cheesey
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:20:00 -
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There goes any prayer you had of surviving in a fleet fight in a dictor.
*begins Grav Physics 4 for the broadsword*
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Dangerously Cheesey
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GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 04:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Arenis Xemdal
I can fly dictors, and have used them in fleets. Your inability or unwillingness to see logic doesn't make me a troll, it makes you incompetent. Interceptors are meant to catch targets, Interdictors meant to stop them. An Interceptor should have speed, and an Interdictor should have stopping power. Currently on TQ, both have approximately the same speed and the Dictor has far better stopping power. The choice is a no-brainer one. After the nerf, you get some better variety. You sacrifice the ability to get to targets far away for the area-of-effect scrambling that cannot be stopped by wcs and will screw over supercapitals.
I really have to wonder if you've ever flown the ships. Interdictors aren't even close to the speed of interceptors. With T2 fittings and no implants (but good skills) my Heretic can't even break 5km/s, well below any decent T2 interceptor. And that's with such a high mass that I can't even hold an orbit within range of my weapons!
QFT
Gistii MWD snaked out sabres ganking low skill point taranis pilots does not mean that dictors and ceptors are the same speed or even close. Even with their current speed, ceptors can be tough to catch for dictors, whose role, besides dropping bubbles, is to be the tech 2 destroyer. HACs/Recons are already better anti-frigate ships than dictors - thats just gonna get worse if you take away any hope dictor pilots have of catching a ceptor.
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Dangerously Cheesey
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Posted - 2007.11.02 05:16:00 -
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If CCP is concerned about dictors replacing interceptors, they should at least wait for the interceptor buff to go through. Getting a huge cap role bonus and extra scram range should make ceptors a more viable role in fleets. Yes, there are people who use the sabre like its a heavy claw with a bubble and yes, thats probably a little excessive. Trim at most 35-40m/s off the sabre then - God knows the other dictors don't need a nerf.
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Dangerously Cheesey
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Posted - 2007.11.02 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Andreya
Originally by: Dangerously Cheesey
If CCP is concerned about dictors replacing interceptors, they should at least wait for the interceptor buff to go through. Getting a huge cap role bonus and extra scram range should make ceptors a more viable role in fleets. Yes, there are people who use the sabre like its a heavy claw with a bubble and yes, thats probably a little excessive. Trim at most 35-40m/s off the sabre then - God knows the other dictors don't need a nerf.
first off the eris is the fastest. then the sabre, and the heretic is only 7% slower when all are speed fitted.. which is hte only way to fly them... yes.. the eris still blows... and the flycatcher is slow (but good with ewar in smal gangs)
The Eris is only faster if it uses all of its lows for speed.
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Dangerously Cheesey
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Posted - 2007.11.08 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kerfira
Edited by: Kerfira on 08/11/2007 11:24:36
Originally by: Skadhi
This is a nerf looking for a problem.
Since 'dictors have almost totally replaced i'ceptors, there IS a problem.
A speed nerf (I'm mostly thinking of the Sabre here) would be one solution.... Whether it's THE solution, I don't know, but ships being effectively invulnerable due to speed (no matter how that is done, snakes/rigs/whatever) is just wrong (this goes for all other shiptypes too btw, 'ceptors, vaga's etc.)...
Originally by: Skadhi
100m of rigs (2 polycarbs) on a 35m primary with ~3k hitpoints, this gets expensive surprisingly fast. These ships are already suicide boats in fleets
...and still people are using them.
This must indicate that they're worth it!
Dictors have replaced ceptors for fleets? If only they gave ceptors some kind of fleet buff in the next patch - oh wait, they did! This nerf just turns dictors in fleet fights from "I wonder if I can burn, drop a bubble and get out before I die" to "FLYING COFFIN". The *only* potential saving grace is that this script nerf to TC/TE/SB might nerf eagles/muninns/etc hard enough to slightly counter balance the speed nerf.
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